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I have literally just done a picture of this quote, but I think it works better like this.

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~Zecorezecron May 5, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
False.
Almost none of the major wars EVER were about religion. Nearly all of them were about side A wanting something side B had and killing them for it.

Alexander conquered Persia because Persia attacked Greece to gain land. Qin conquered China because he wanted to be in charge. Hitler was able to get Germany behind him because they were mad about the restrictions placed upon them when they lost the first world war which only happened because everybody and their grandma was in an alliance and had to fight because of it. And let's not forget Vietnam and Korea which were about people disagreeing over how the economy should be run. Am I forgetting any?

Oh, the war on terror you say? Consider this. Would those people still be fighting if they didn't follow a religion that only endorses violence as a last resort?
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:iconaatheist:
At what point was war mentioned? War is certainly not the sole cause of misery. I give you the inquisition (all four of them), the oppression of women, slavery, it holds back progress and is the direct cause of lost scientific endeavour throughout history. Take some time and actually learn your history before you start arguing against the argument you "think" I'm using. I would suggest you start in the "Dark Ages". Take a look at the role of religion in society at the time. Actually go out and educate yourself. It might do you some good.

Also you could have picked some better examples, many of Alexander the greats followers believed he was the son of Zeus. He was under Aristotle's tutelage from a very young age, and Aristotle impressed upon his young pupil the notion that all non-Greeks are barbarians and their enemies and that it is "the moral right of all Greeks to wage war upon them, enslave them, or exterminate them" (Cummings 59). In other words it was the belief that he was ALLOWED to destroy everyone else that lead to him taking over the known world.

Hitler? Really? Are you going to argue against the role that religion played in creating all the horror of the second world war? Honestly? I take it that his annihilation of the Jews was purely political? Are you sane? This quote does not say that religion is the SOLE cause of misery, but it is certainly one largest causes of misery throughout history.

And finally the war on terror I say? Actually no, I wouldn't bother to bring it up, but now that you've mentioned it. Consider you final statement, "Would those people still be fighting if they didn't follow a religion that only endorses violence as a last resort?" Do you actually think this helps your cause in any way? At all? Try reading it again. Also they do not follow a religion that endorses violence "only" as a last resort, actually violence is pretty common throughout Sharia law. Try actually reading the Koran before you make statements about something you obviously know nothing about. Hell on that point it might be a good idea for you to actually read the bible, I would suggest starting with genesis. You might actually learn something.
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*Deborah-Valentine Jul 31, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
even as a child, i thought about that
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:iconlilredwagon:
HELLO! ... Methinks "MANKIND" has CAUSED MORE 'misery' to one another .... RELIGION and NON religious types .... ? .... SMILES.
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*Childe-Of-Fyre Jul 17, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
True, but "mankind" generally CAUSES those miseries OVER the IDEA of RELIGION... ;)
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:iconaatheist:
Yes, but mankind is not an "idea" or a concept.
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:iconlilredwagon:
AAtheist: HELLO, again! .... It's my HUMBLE view of 'history' that there were ALSO PLENTY of HITLER types who espoused no 'religion' while they killed MILLIONS.... YES, there ARE RELIGIOUS wars also throughout history .... TOO MANY of such .... AGREE ....

I operate on the view that ANY 'reason(s)' for WAR upon OTHER HUMANS ''other than TRUE SELF DEFENSE'' is HORRIFIC .... I don't care to 'parse' the 'religious' wars with the 'non' religious wars .... WAR is WAR in MY HUMBLE view ....

MONEY and GREED and EGO are also MAJOR causes for HISTORICAL WARS ....

My BEST to you and yours .... LRW
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Pardon me for cutting in, but...

"Who says I am not under the special protection of God?" Adolf Hitler
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:iconaatheist:
Well Hitler was a catholic and he urged the killing of the Jews on the basis of "doing gods work" so you couldn't have picked a worse example, further it doesn't matter what other ideas are involved in war, religion is still the source of more misery than any other single idea. War is not the sole cause of misery.
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